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Saturday, October 4, 2008

TAL Does the Mortgage Mess

One of the best treatments of the financial disaster I've seen or heard, done by This American Life. The transcript is here (warning: long pdf).

When my cousin in the mortgage business told me a couple of years ago that if an applicant could fog a mirror with their breath, they got a loan. Turns out, he was describing the older, stricter standard:

Then the next one, came along, and it was no income, verified assets. So you don't have to tell the people what you do for a living. You don’t have to tell the people what you do for work. All you have to do is state you have a certain amount of money in your bank account. And then, the next one, is just no income, no asset. You don't have to state anything. Just have to have a credit score and a pulse. Actually that pulse thing. Also optional. Like the case in Ohio where 23 dead people were approved for mortgages.

Here's where I reveal my inner scrooge. Everyone wants to rant about Wall Street villains and congressional malfeasance. Yeah, they deserve every bit of it. But what about the people who took those loans? They were getting something for nothing. And losing their houses? Let's rewind the tape and play it back by the old rules. Under that scenario, they would never have had a house to lose in the first place. My fingers are going to get tired from all the pointing.

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6 Comments:

  • You're absolutely right







    There, enjoy that.

    By Blogger Scott Nehring, At October 4, 2008 7:27 AM  

  • It's all a sign of a larger sickness. There is no accountability or shame. That goes for the buyer and the lender.

    My grandpa was close to losing everthing in 1948, but the thought of bankruptcy/foreclosure was so repulsive to him that he found a way to claw out of it. Now I don't think he was especially virtuous, but the culture held a standard that applied shame to such a failure. I'm not advocating a blanket shame since we know some people just run into hardship even thought they act responsibly, but my goodness, we need to have some shame in our culture.

    By Blogger ron, At October 6, 2008 1:12 PM  

  • To make a contract it takes two parties.

    Just sayin. (Conservatives seem to be less fond of 'g's these days, correct? ;P)

    The folks taking out loans were acting, presumably, in their self interest. As were the people making the loans.

    Is your trust in the free market faltering?

    Markets need rules, and rules need to be enforced by people with an interest in seeing them enforced. We tried the fox watching the hen house for a while. That us chickens are getting eaten is the consequence of us choosing the fox.

    By Blogger thudhead, At October 7, 2008 11:16 AM  

  • John, my faith, trust, and affection in and for the letter G remains unshaken through these financially troubled times.

    By Blogger Jeff Burton, At October 7, 2008 11:20 AM  

  • So, OK. Let's say that our inner scrooges dominate our thought. We maintain our outrage over their irresponsible behavior. But why? What should it matter to us? Because the actions of others effect us. We have a stake in what decisions others make. There are appropriate rules that society makes to discourage (or disallow !) bad decisions, and incentives to encourage good decisions. Not because we are good and caring liberals, but because we are self interested scrooges. Enlightened Self Interest can turn a conservative scrooge into a pragmatic liberal.

    By Blogger thudhead, At October 11, 2008 7:43 AM  

  • doh! affect us. :shame:

    By Blogger thudhead, At October 11, 2008 7:45 AM  

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